Vipers are undervalued 

"JR1" (type35bugatti) 06/20/2017 at 21:56 • Filed to: None

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They hardly cost anything more than a C4 Zr1 (which itself is undervalued). People are paying an arm and a leg for the “analog” Ferraris and Lamborghinis (as if a Ferrari or Lamborghini isn’t already analog even with paddles) but the America’s from the same decade are just sitting in purgatory waiting for their moments to shine.

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My citroen won't start > JR1 06/20/2017 at 21:58

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cheap plastic don’t shine

JR1 > My citroen won't start 06/20/2017 at 21:59

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Lighter than metal and faster than a Ferrari 355. I would argue the Viper is even a supercar.

My citroen won't start > JR1 06/20/2017 at 22:02

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this is unforgivable, it has no gravitas

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > My citroen won't start 06/20/2017 at 22:03

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But I want it soo bad.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > JR1 06/20/2017 at 22:05

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A current GTI is just as fast, same price, and doesn’t have the same interior as a mid-90s intrepid. So..........

Nibbles > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 06/20/2017 at 22:11

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A current GTI also has 1/4 the displacement, none of the looks and won’t threaten your life if you look at the go pedal wrong.

A current GTI has 20+ years of development time on the Viper. A current GTI is an appliance.

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > Nibbles 06/20/2017 at 22:17

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And the GTI just lacks presence, no one is oogling the GTI but a Viper is going to cause a scene anywhere it goes.

crowmolly > JR1 06/20/2017 at 22:18

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That’s overvalued in my opinion.

Sure, it’s got some things going for it, like the name, you can say you have a V10, and the T56 is built up from the factory.

But $30,000 for a thirsty V10 that only makes 450 hp wrapped in cheap 90's Dodge finishwork is not a good deal. Not now, when there are so many other options out there.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 06/20/2017 at 22:20

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A current GTI is a much slower car

wafflesnfalafel > JR1 06/20/2017 at 22:27

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Totally agree - especially the first gen and 2nd gen GTS. It is THE American exotic. It’s why the Vette is as good as it is now. Yes it’s 90's plastic but that is part of the package. Don’t melt your pants on the side pipes.

VW Max > JR1 06/20/2017 at 22:29

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I’m sorry, but your title kind of triggered me. “Viper’s” would be something belonging to a viper. “Vipers” is the plural.

Sorry—Signed That Guy

atfsgeoff > crowmolly 06/20/2017 at 22:35

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Counterpoint: That 488 cubic inch mill will decimate all after you put about 10, 20 grand into it, if you have to overnight parts from Japan Garrett

JR1 > My citroen won't start 06/20/2017 at 22:50

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Sure it’s a lot of plastic but a 95 911 wasn’t exactly a looker on the inside:

JR1 > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 06/20/2017 at 22:52

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I’d love to see a GTI out drag this car down a quarter mile. Maybe it is as fast on a track thanks to a DSG but this car has passion a GTI lacks

JR1 > crowmolly 06/20/2017 at 22:53

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I agree but few 30k cars today will demand the same respect or be worth the same amount as the Viper in a decade

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch > JR1 06/20/2017 at 22:53

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“ZR-1's are undervalued”

*Looks up ZR-1 listings, same price as a base Camaro.*

Holy shit! That’s awesome! You made my day!

JR1 > VW Max 06/20/2017 at 22:56

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It was a stupid mistake. I know better too. Thanks for pointing it out

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > JR1 06/20/2017 at 23:02

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Shhhhhhhhhh..... Don’t post this until I own one.

Textured Soy Protein > JR1 06/20/2017 at 23:10

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C4s and Vipers are inexpensive because they suck. C4s have no room for your feet and Vipers are claustrophobic in general. There’s less room inside than a Miata.

Thomas Donohue > Nibbles 06/21/2017 at 01:24

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I’d argue that the development time of the Viper started back in the 60's when someone said “huge American engine, small car!”

The problem here, for me, is that the first gen Viper was not good looking, and the 400hp V10 had to lug around ~3300 pounds.

The SRII was where the story got good (and good looking), but even the GTS only managed an 8:10 around the ring, which is 20 seconds slower than the new GTI Clubsport.

I don’t feel that the early models are undervalued, but I wouldn’t kick this out of my garage.

pip bip - choose Corrour > JR1 06/21/2017 at 06:01

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buy them all then , hang on to them in storage then sell when the values are going sky high crazy

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make $$$$$

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Thomas Donohue 06/21/2017 at 07:15

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^this the only good early model Viper

nerd_racing > My citroen won't start 06/21/2017 at 08:24

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I honestly don’t find this that awful.

BigBlock440 > My citroen won't start 06/21/2017 at 08:57

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You’ve obviously never heard of Armor All...

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > My citroen won't start 06/21/2017 at 08:59

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But unlike the Ferrari’s of the time, the plastic doesn’t delaminate and get sticky and cost an arm and a leg to replace.....

Dru > JR1 06/21/2017 at 09:08

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Doge DeMuro’s sold on BaT for, what I think is a fantastically good deal. Around $33K. Of course there’s more cost to it than just the purchase price but still, $35K for 10-year-old-me’s dream car: deal.

Milky > JR1 06/21/2017 at 10:00

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If you just wanted a toy, this is the literal best option.

JR1 > Dru 06/21/2017 at 10:06

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Yeah that is a great deal for a 90s super car that won at Le Mans multiple times.

JR1 > Milky 06/21/2017 at 10:06

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I actually love the color

Milky > JR1 06/21/2017 at 10:37

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If you’re going 90's, fully commit.

Gib milky 3 spokes.

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > crowmolly 06/21/2017 at 10:43

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“Only makes 450hp”

...what the hell times are we living in where that sentence isn’t said ironically? 450hp will do nicely, tyvm!

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > Carbon Fiber Sasquatch 06/21/2017 at 10:43

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Shhhhh! I’m in the market! Be vewwy vewwy quiet!

WiscoProud > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 06/21/2017 at 11:27

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You could make the same argument about any classic sports car. We’ve been spoiled due to the ongoing HP wars. Sure you can buy something newer that’s faster, but it won’t have nearly the desirability that this, or any other classic sports car has.

JR1 > Milky 06/21/2017 at 12:31

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Totally agree

CaptDale - is secretly British > JR1 06/21/2017 at 13:24

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I agree,but that is a good thing cause maybe I can afford one sooner rather than later. I love 1st gen Vipers

JR1 > CaptDale - is secretly British 06/21/2017 at 13:38

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It isn’t a bad thing at all. Until I own one then it becomes a bad thing

CaptDale - is secretly British > JR1 06/21/2017 at 13:47

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No, I like cars that don’t appreciate due to “collectors” and such BS. Cause that means people will drive and modify them

JR1 > CaptDale - is secretly British 06/21/2017 at 17:07

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People who buys cars as investments and nothing else should be deported to a small island in the Arctic 

CaptDale - is secretly British > JR1 06/21/2017 at 17:09

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They should be forced to only own and drive 1997 Corollas and Camarys

JR1 > CaptDale - is secretly British 06/21/2017 at 20:01

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*hits star button 12 times

CaptDale - is secretly British > JR1 06/21/2017 at 20:10

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Ha ha ha, yes I think that is a good rule!